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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

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  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Overrated - the 2 inch paint brush is pretty well known. I think it came from a video that was shown in the halls.
  

  Drearyweather - yes they want to hold an in-person judicial because that is what they want to do. All wearing face masks. But it's not going to happen.

  Although this person has done nothing wrong, except question Watchtower doctrine and their unchristian practices, one of the elders got rattled when the "publisher" (or ex-publisher) said they would not wear a face mask, let alone turn up. That's how I understand it.

  Steel - I think the elder shared your viewpoint and felt that face mask wearing gave him the moral high ground.
  

  The person rendered the elders silent over and over again by using the scriptures appropriately.
  
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Remember the to need to paint with a 2 inch paint brush if the elder tells you? Well refusing to wear a face mask, let alone not turning up to your judicial is a double whammy as far as someone is concerned.

  They have found no fault with this person. The person is willing to be corrected if they find any fault. So far - zero faults identified by body of elders. Except of course you know they'll find fault with not going along with Watchtower rules.
  

  Kramer - surely you know enough about these people to know that something as petty as this does go on in WT-land. Yes I am being a bit jokey about it when I say 'is this new light' - no it isn't. But it is their usual petty making of rules - picking out gnats while gulping down camels and preparing to df someone who has done nothing wrong. Except tell them they are wrong on certain scriptural points and highlight some of their less than Christian actions.
  

  (Matthew 23:23-24) . . .“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you give the tenth of the mint and the dill and the cumin, but you have disregarded the weightier matters of the Law, namely, justice and mercy and faithfulness. These things it was binding to do, yet not to disregard the other things. 24 Blind guides, who strain out the gnat but gulp down the camel. . .
  
  
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  Disfellowhipped for not wearing facemask?

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yup - person has done nothing wrong.

  but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?

  if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.

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  Anna Marina

  Yup - person has done nothing wrong. But they have called a judicial and from what I can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.

  So is this new light? If you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment. But do not rock up wear your breastplate of faith or your helmet of salvation any attempt to do so is a disfellowshipping offense.
  
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  2020-10-01--Care For Your Personal Needs Yourself----Full Time Servants! (as of 2020-10-06)

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  i guess the full time servants will have to fend for themselves or rely on publishers to care for them.

  ------------------------------------for special full-time servants in the field in the united states branch territory1.

  necessary personal needs: it is preferred that you and your mate (if married) continue to care for your personal needs yourself.

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  Hi Petra - would like to flag my personal need for a PM and a frothy coffee :)
  
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  If The JW Religion Was A Person --You'd See How Mentally ILL - that person was.

  by pistolpete in

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  i found this interesting observation .

  u/mistermark21imagine if the jw religion was a person.

  some guy who thinks that:.

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  It could claim to be a member of an avant guard movement.
  
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  If The JW Religion Was A Person --You'd See How Mentally ILL - that person was.

  by pistolpete in

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  i found this interesting observation .

  u/mistermark21imagine if the jw religion was a person.

  some guy who thinks that:.

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  Funny how they have to take Tramadol with their opium.
  
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  If The JW Religion Was A Person --You'd See How Mentally ILL - that person was.

  by pistolpete in

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  i found this interesting observation .

  u/mistermark21imagine if the jw religion was a person.

  some guy who thinks that:.

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  But what if he owns and runs the local hospital?
  
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  Anthony Morris wants former Jehovah's Witnesses DEAD

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  in a disgusting new video, anthony morris iii talks about apostates, and brings to mind his 'hot dog' talk all over again as he anticipates the demise of ex-jehovah's witnesses.

  i don't know if you're familiar with maggots, but when you see a whole bunch of them it's not a pleasant sight.. .

  what a fitting picture of the final end of all of god's enemies.

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  I have never understood the attitude that wants people dead. Ok I know you can get deeply fed and sickened by others but bottom line is God loved the world so much he gave his only-begotten son, in order that everyone excercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

  And Jesus taught that God wants MERCY not sacrifice. He came to call sinners not righteous people. (Matthew 9:13)

  I remember sitting with another publisher and looking out on a lot of people. The publisher told me they looked forward to seeing all these people die at Armageddon. I was horrified to hear someone express such a callous view and I said so. I wondered what motivated them to go out on the ministry.
  

  After all if you were the parent of a wreckless son or daughter and that one die because of their own folly, even though you never apporved their lifestyle, you, as the parent would never want them dead. But you would yearn for them to stop behaving in a way that was putting them in danger.
  

  Oh well, I got disfellowshipped in the end.
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  Today s wt

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  quote from the introduction:.

  some apparently claimed to have received a special, mystical knowledge from god.e but their teaching contradicted jesus’ message and encouraged selfishness and a lack of love.

  so john calls these teachers antichrists, or those who teach against christ.

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  BlueBrother - I have recently heard this one - someone quotes something from the WT that reflects what really in is the Bible (WT mixes truth and fiction). So someone quotes a bit of actual truth and shows how the GB are acting against Jesus.
  

  Then the pro WT person responds, "yes it is the truth but not when it comes out of your mouth."

  Therefore, "love your neighbour" is true only when expressed by the WT. If you say, "love your neighbour," it is not true.

  I think that takes spin to a whole new level.

  So don't ever bother trying to telling them 2+2=4 because if you have said it, it must be a lie!??!
  
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  I bought these two books out garage saleing

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the truth that leads to eternal life at a church rummage sale.

  1968 printing and a 74 printing of god's eternal purpose now triumphing for mens good.

  i know the truth book has some things in it that are a bit damning.

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  If you are talking books - I have invested in a book called Agents of Discord Deprogramming, Pseudo-Science and the American Anticult Movement by Anson Shupe and Susan E. Darnell. It is a brilliant book and draws attention to the problem dealing with new religious movements/cults - its an American/European thing. In law the problem of coming down effectively against cults is that you are allowed freedom of religion but when people disagree with a new religious movement (and call it damaging), is it a secular issue or a theological one? If its secular why are you talking about religion?

  If it's religious (and particularly if America) there's little the Government can do because of the First Amendment which protects freedom of religion.
  

  Also do cults carry out mind control? If yes, why do people leave? Shows the issue isn't mind control. But it could be mind manipulation. Then you get back to the issue of is this a secular or a theological problem?